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Succession & Retirement Matt Davis Succession & Retirement Matt Davis

Episode 101 - How Father-Son Ministry Succession Works (featuring Jonathan & David Shibley)

Jonathan Shibley was about to speak when someone whispered how sorry he felt for him, having to fill his father’s shoes.

Following a respected founder carries pressure. Following a father brings that pressure home.

In this episode, Matt Davis talks with David and Jonathan Shibley about the succession at Global Advance - and how they remained close through it. 

Jonathan joined with no promised title, served for ten years before becoming president, and had time to earn the confidence of the board and the people connected to the ministry.

David explains why he affirmed his son’s leadership publicly and kept disagreements private. Jonathan describes the insecurity of being compared with his father, the weight of becoming president, and learning to lead in his own way.

They also discuss their wives’ experiences, boundaries around family time, financial preparation, and the work David continues to do after leaving the presidency. It’s a hopeful account of a handoff that gave both generations room to serve.

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Facing Life After Ministry can feel hopeless, but it doesn’t have to be.

Whether you've stepped away from your position by choice, or circumstances have forced a change, it's a monumental shift that leaves many wondering, "What's next?" If you're at this crossroads, you may feel alone, overwhelmed, and unsure about the road ahead.

We want you to know that you're not alone in this transition. There's not just life after ministry - there's a chance to thrive.

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“Just listened to Matt and Marilee unpacked their own story in episode one. So generous, honest, and invitational. Thanks for meeting a "gap" in the ministry world, and by that I mean the shattered heads and hearts wandering the land like Christendom's own take on the Walking Dead. I pray this resurrects many, opens eyes for their families and communities, causing an increase in empathy among God's people.”
- Scott White

David, Former Pastor

"I felt lost after leaving the ministry. This podcast showed me a way forward."

Sarah, Ex-Missionary

"Life After Ministry Podcast was a lifeline during my transition. Now, I'm thriving in my new chapter!"

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The Struggles of Transitioning

Stepping away from pastoral service can be a lonely journey filled with uncertainties. What will your new identity be? How do you make sense of the changes? The stakes are high - but you don't have to navigate this alone.