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Episode 9: Facing And Forgiving Those Who Hurt You
Join Ryan and Lindsay Gentles on the Life After Ministry podcast as they share their poignant story in "Facing And Forgiving Those Who Hurt You." Discover their journey through a difficult ministry exit and how they found healing in forgiveness, reshaping their lives with hard-earned wisdom and courage. Plus, explore Ryan's unique approach to answering his children's curious questions in his book, "Did Jesus Wear Undies?" Dive into an episode of raw emotion and transformative insights.
Episode 7: The Difference Between Hurt & Injury (featuring Shane McDonald)
Discover the profound yet often overlooked issue of "church hurt" in Episode 7 of the Life After Ministry Podcast. Licensed mental health counselor and former pastor Shane McDonald dives into the reality that a shocking 90% of his clients have experienced hurt within their church communities. Explore the crucial difference between "hurt" and "injury" and find wisdom that could set the stage for healing.
Episode 5: Pain Is A Teacher (featuring Gary & Lisa Black)
In Episode 5, "Pain Is A Teacher," we sit down with the inspiring couple, Gary & Lisa Black, to discuss the transformative power of enduring life's toughest transitions.
From losing a spouse and a child to navigating numerous shifts in ministry, Gary and Lisa have amassed a wealth of wisdom that they generously share in this episode.
Their story is a testament to the resilience of faith and the lessons that can only be learned through pain.
Get your pen and paper ready—you won't want to miss the invaluable insights from this power couple.
Learn more about Gary & Lisa at garyandlisablack.com and mandate456.org.
Episode 3: Your Mental Health After Ministry (featuring Noe Rivera)
In Episode 3 of the Life After Ministry Podcast, we talk to Noe Rivera, a key member of the founding team behind Pastoral Transitions.
Growing up as a pastor's kid, Noe intimately understands the emotional toll that ministry transitions can take on families.
Titled "Mental Health After Ministry," this episode dives into Noe's missionary years and the shifts that followed, laying the groundwork for his current role as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT).
Facing Life After Ministry can feel hopeless, but it doesn’t have to be.
Whether you've stepped away from your position by choice, or circumstances have forced a change, it's a monumental shift that leaves many wondering, "What's next?" If you're at this crossroads, you may feel alone, overwhelmed, and unsure about the road ahead.
We want you to know that you're not alone in this transition. There's not just life after ministry - there's a chance to thrive.
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“Just listened to Matt and Marilee unpacked their own story in episode one. So generous, honest, and invitational. Thanks for meeting a "gap" in the ministry world, and by that I mean the shattered heads and hearts wandering the land like Christendom's own take on the Walking Dead. I pray this resurrects many, opens eyes for their families and communities, causing an increase in empathy among God's people.”
- Scott White
David, Former Pastor
"I felt lost after leaving the ministry. This podcast showed me a way forward."
Sarah, Ex-Missionary
"Life After Ministry Podcast was a lifeline during my transition. Now, I'm thriving in my new chapter!"
The Struggles of Transitioning
Stepping away from pastoral service can be a lonely journey filled with uncertainties. What will your new identity be? How do you make sense of the changes? The stakes are high - but you don't have to navigate this alone.

